somewhere cheaper in Los Angeles that is not a risk?
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Diner in Los Angeles, CA
4.3 · 3,987 reviewsOpen today until 2 AMOpen until 2
Eligible to offer 20% cashback to customers who shop here.OrbitBack
25AI ScoreNot read yetConfirmedVisitor submittedVisitorAI guess
Retro coffee shop serves huge menu of diner fare, including signature dessert, till the wee hours.
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AI checked this page on Aug 31, 2026Last activity 1 month ago, a question from summer_regular_downtown.
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Answers marked AI. Summaries of reviews and the record.
What House of Pies offers, what it costs, and what people come for.
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When it's quiet, where to park, and what's nearby.
Monday or Wednesday, before 9 AM.
Busiest Friday and Saturday from 7 to 12 AM.
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1829-1847 N Vermont Ave Parking is next door for parking Franklin & Vermont Ave. is next door for a bus stop Bru Coffeebar is next door for coffee Greetings from Los Feliz Mural is next door for a tourist attraction
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Usually quiet now. Busiest Fri and Sat, 7 to 12 AM.
What reviews, press and directories say about House of Pies.
4.3from 3,987 reviews on Google
While House of Pies is known for its variety of pies and diner fare, inconsistent service and cleanliness issues have led to mixed reviews. House of Pies offers a mix of diner charm and late-night comfort food, with a cozy atmosphere that includes both indoor and outdoor seating. However, some customers have reported issues with cleanliness and service, which can detract from the overall experience.
No updates from House of Pies yet.
The page ChatGPT, Gemini, Perplexity and Google read about House of Pies. The code version is exactly what their crawlers get.
Local AI Registry · Diners in Los Angeles, CA · Editorial
By Steve Lee, founder and CEO of Local AI Registry. Former Google Search executive and former Microsoft executive, with 20+ years in digital.
Fact-checked against 2 sources · Published August 31, 2026 · Updated August 31, 2026 · Machine-readable version below
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House of Pies is a diner in Los Angeles, CA. Its AI Score is 25 of 100, which is poor.
Every fact on this page carries one of three marks: Confirmed (from their website, Google Business Profile, review sites, licensing boards, or measured by Local AI Registry), Visitor submitted (added by a person, with a date and how they know), or AI guess (what AI engines like ChatGPT are saying, not confirmed by anyone). Every mark points to a reference at the end of this page.
| Fact | Value |
|---|---|
| Type | Diner |
| Address | 1869 N Vermont Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90027, USA |
| Hours | Mon to Thu 7 AM to 1 AM · Fri to Sat 7 AM to 2 AM · Sun 7 AM to 1 AM |
| Phone | (323) 666-9961 |
| Owner | Nothing found |
| Rating | 4.3 across 3,987 reviews on Google |
| Known for | House of Pies is best known for its extensive selection of pies, particularly the lemon meringue and cheesecake, alongside a diverse diner menu that attracts locals. |
| Prices | Nothing found |
| Quietest time | Wednesday |
| Parking | Nothing found |
| Last verified | September 19, 2026, 11:02 AM |
Every row is something the owner can add or correct. Each one is marked Confirmed, Visitor submitted or AI guess, with where it came from.
| Group | Fact | Value | Mark | Evidence |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Location info | Address | 1869 N Vermont Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90027, USA | Confirmed | Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026 |
| Location info | Description | Retro coffee shop serves huge menu of diner fare, including signature dessert, till the wee hours. | Confirmed | Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026 |
| Location info | Hours | Mon to Thu 7:00 AM to 1:00 AM · Fri to Sat 7:00 AM to 2:00 AM · Sun 7:00 AM to 1:00 AM | Confirmed | Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026 |
| Location info | Name | House of Pies | Confirmed | Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026 |
| Location info | Phone | (323) 666-9961 | Confirmed | Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026 |
| Hours | Monday | 7:00 AM to 1:00 AM | Confirmed | Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026 |
| Hours | Tuesday | 7:00 AM to 1:00 AM | Confirmed | Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026 |
| Hours | Wednesday | 7:00 AM to 1:00 AM | Confirmed | Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026 |
| Hours | Thursday | 7:00 AM to 1:00 AM | Confirmed | Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026 |
| Hours | Friday | 7:00 AM to 2:00 AM | Confirmed | Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026 |
| Hours | Saturday | 7:00 AM to 2:00 AM | Confirmed | Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026 |
| Hours | Sunday | 7:00 AM to 1:00 AM | Confirmed | Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026 |
| Services | Service | Breakfast | AI guess | Nothing found |
| Services | Service | Coffee | AI guess | Nothing found |
| Services | Service | Desserts | AI guess | Nothing found |
| Services | Service | Dinner | AI guess | Nothing found |
| Services | Service | Lunch | AI guess | Nothing found |
| Links | Website | http://houseofpiesla.com/ | Confirmed | Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026 |
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House of Pies is best known for its extensive selection of pies, particularly the lemon meringue and cheesecake, alongside a diverse diner menu that attracts locals.
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Address: 1869 N Vermont Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90027, USA. Phone: (323) 666-9961. Hours: Mon to Thu 7 AM to 1 AM · Fri to Sat 7 AM to 2 AM · Sun 7 AM to 1 AM. (Confirmed, Google Business Profile, checked August 31, 2026 at 10:58 PM.)
Business description, written by House of Pies on its Google Business Profile: "Retro coffee shop serves huge menu of diner fare, including signature dessert, till the wee hours."
Quietest day: Wednesday. Busiest day: Saturday. From the popular times on its Google listing.
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| Place | Type | Distance |
|---|---|---|
| 1829-1847 N Vermont Ave Parking | Parking lot | 1 min walk |
| Franklin & Vermont Ave. | Bus stop | 1 min walk |
| Bru Coffeebar | Coffee shop | 1 min walk |
| Greetings from Los Feliz Mural | Tourist attraction | 1 min walk |
| Vermont / Franklin | Bus stop | 1 min walk |
| Vermont / Franklin | Transit station | 1 min walk |
4.3 average across 3,987 reviews: Google 25. (Confirmed, read August 31, 2026.)
While House of Pies is known for its variety of pies and diner fare, inconsistent service and cleanliness issues have led to mixed reviews. (AI guess, from 3,987 reviews.)
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We ask ChatGPT about House of Pies. These are the answers that disagree with the record.
ChatGPT, read by Local AI Registry on Aug 31, 2026.
No capture has disagreed with the record yet.
The AI Score measures how likely AI engines are to recommend a business, and how accurately. Los Angeles diners run 24 to 49. Fair starts at 45, good at 65. House of Pies scores 25, below the Los Angeles average of 32. The same method scores every business on the registry.
| Signal | Weight | Score | What it measures | House of Pies |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Retrieval grounding | 26 | 0 | Whether you appear in the ranked results AI retrieves and cites: AI-Overview citations, organic top-10 for your money queries, and the Bing index ChatGPT leans on. | Poor |
| Off-property attestation | 20 | 40 | Volume and consistency of what others say about you: YouTube mentions, branded web mentions, third-party “best-of” lists. The cause of retrievability. | Poor |
| AI visibility | 14 | 0 | Whether ChatGPT, Gemini, Perplexity, and AI Overviews name you, and whether they name you for the right service. | Nobody at all was recommended in the 1 answer we hold, so there is nothing to score. |
| Reviews & response | 12 | 88 | The star average is only one input. We also read volume, velocity, the specificity of review language, and response cadence. Specific reviews are what AI quotes verbatim. | Good |
| Backlink & citation authority | 8 | 57 | Domain authority and editorial quality of the sources that attest to you. | Fair |
| Google Business Profile | 8 | 90 | Required and recommended fields; update cadence. The listing AI pulls from first. | Good |
| Speed & mobile | 7 | Not read yet | Core Web Vitals at the 75th percentile, on a real phone. | No reading has come back for this signal yet. |
| Content freshness & schema | 5 | 73 | Crawl recency, intent alignment, valid JSON-LD, canonicals. | Good |
Full method: https://localairegistry.com/methodology
When you ask ChatGPT, Gemini or Google about a local business, the AI doesn't visit it. It reads what's already written about it: the business's website, its Google Business Profile, review sites, news stories and directories like this one. Then it repeats what those sources agree on.
That's why AI gets small facts wrong. If Yelp says a place is open Mondays and the website says it isn't, the AI has to pick one. The table above shows the answers that disagree with the record today.
The more sources agree, and the more specific they are, the more confidently AI recommends a business. A review that names who helped and what they did tells an AI far more than one that says "great place."
A few checks take ten minutes and tell you more than any rating.
Steve Lee is the founder and CEO of Local AI Registry and sets its editorial standards. He is a former Google executive in Search and a former Microsoft executive, with more than 20 years in digital: search, local discovery, and how people find businesses online. He is based in Irvine.
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| Los Angeles, California | City | #city | Nothing found | City House of Pies is in |
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Where this page sits in the registry. It's one profile among the diners in Los Angeles, linked to the lists and towns around it.
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The public record of how AI sees local business. We score every business we list by one published method, we keep the questions people ask about it in one place, and we never sell rank. Looking up any business here is free.
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This is exactly what this page sends to Google, Bing, ChatGPT, Claude, Perplexity and Gemini. We publish it in the open for two reasons: so you can see nothing here is hidden or made up, and so any business or developer can copy it. Being a good local AI steward means the machine version says exactly what the human version says.
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# House of Pies, Los Angeles: a diner in Los Angeles (2026 guide) Source: Local AI Registry, https://localairegistry.com/biz/ca/los-angeles/house-of-pies-los-angeles-ca. Free to reuse with a link back. By Steve Lee, founder and CEO of Local AI Registry. Fact-checked against 2 sources. Updated 2026-09-01. Owner review: not yet. Canonical: https://localairegistry.com/biz/ca/los-angeles/house-of-pies-los-angeles-ca ## Photos -  -  -  -  -  ## In short House of Pies is a diner in Los Angeles, CA. Its AI Score is 25 of 100, which is poor. Every fact on this page carries one of three marks: Confirmed (from their website, Google Business Profile, review sites, licensing boards, or measured by Local AI Registry), Visitor submitted (added by a person, with a date and how they know), or AI guess (what AI engines like ChatGPT are saying, not confirmed by anyone). Every mark points to a reference at the end of this page. ## Key facts | Fact | Value | | --- | --- | | Type | Diner | | Address | 1869 N Vermont Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90027, USA | | Hours | Mon to Thu 7 AM to 1 AM · Fri to Sat 7 AM to 2 AM · Sun 7 AM to 1 AM | | Phone | (323) 666-9961 | | Owner | Nothing found | | Rating | 4.3 across 3,987 reviews on Google | | Known for | House of Pies is best known for its extensive selection of pies, particularly the lemon meringue and cheesecake, alongside a diverse diner menu that attracts locals. | | Prices | Nothing found | | Quietest time | Wednesday | | Parking | Nothing found | | Last verified | September 19, 2026, 11:02 AM | ## All the details Every row is something the owner can add or correct. Each one is marked Confirmed, Visitor submitted or AI guess, with where it came from. | Group | Fact | Value | Mark | Evidence | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | Location info | Address | 1869 N Vermont Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90027, USA | Confirmed | Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026 | | Location info | Description | Retro coffee shop serves huge menu of diner fare, including signature dessert, till the wee hours. | Confirmed | Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026 | | Location info | Hours | Mon to Thu 7:00 AM to 1:00 AM · Fri to Sat 7:00 AM to 2:00 AM · Sun 7:00 AM to 1:00 AM | Confirmed | Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026 | | Location info | Name | House of Pies | Confirmed | Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026 | | Location info | Phone | (323) 666-9961 | Confirmed | Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026 | | Hours | Monday | 7:00 AM to 1:00 AM | Confirmed | Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026 | | Hours | Tuesday | 7:00 AM to 1:00 AM | Confirmed | Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026 | | Hours | Wednesday | 7:00 AM to 1:00 AM | Confirmed | Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026 | | Hours | Thursday | 7:00 AM to 1:00 AM | Confirmed | Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026 | | Hours | Friday | 7:00 AM to 2:00 AM | Confirmed | Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026 | | Hours | Saturday | 7:00 AM to 2:00 AM | Confirmed | Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026 | | Hours | Sunday | 7:00 AM to 1:00 AM | Confirmed | Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026 | | Services | Service | Breakfast | AI guess | Nothing found | | Services | Service | Coffee | AI guess | Nothing found | | Services | Service | Desserts | AI guess | Nothing found | | Services | Service | Dinner | AI guess | Nothing found | | Services | Service | Lunch | AI guess | Nothing found | | Links | Website | http://houseofpiesla.com/ | Confirmed | Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026 | ## Services and prices Services not read yet, back on Scan Day. ### Known for House of Pies is best known for its extensive selection of pies, particularly the lemon meringue and cheesecake, alongside a diverse diner menu that attracts locals. ## The team Nothing found ## Visiting House of Pies Address: 1869 N Vermont Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90027, USA. Phone: (323) 666-9961. Hours: Mon to Thu 7 AM to 1 AM · Fri to Sat 7 AM to 2 AM · Sun 7 AM to 1 AM. (Confirmed, Google Business Profile, checked August 31, 2026 at 10:58 PM.) ### Location info from Google Business Profile Business description, written by House of Pies on its Google Business Profile: "Retro coffee shop serves huge menu of diner fare, including signature dessert, till the wee hours." ### When to go Quietest day: Wednesday. Busiest day: Saturday. From the popular times on its Google listing. ### Parking and getting in Nothing found ### Nearby | Place | Type | Distance | | --- | --- | --- | | 1829-1847 N Vermont Ave Parking | Parking lot | 1 min walk | | Franklin & Vermont Ave. | Bus stop | 1 min walk | | Bru Coffeebar | Coffee shop | 1 min walk | | Greetings from Los Feliz Mural | Tourist attraction | 1 min walk | | Vermont / Franklin | Bus stop | 1 min walk | | Vermont / Franklin | Transit station | 1 min walk | ## Reputation 4.3 average across 3,987 reviews: Google 25. (Confirmed, read August 31, 2026.) While House of Pies is known for its variety of pies and diner fare, inconsistent service and cleanliness issues have led to mixed reviews. (AI guess, from 3,987 reviews.) ### What people like - Lemon meringue pie - Strawberry cheesecake - Ranchero omelette - Belgium waffle - Raspberry marble cheesecake ### What people do not like - Long waits for food - Inconsistent service quality - Cleanliness concerns - Perceived bias in service - Poorly prepared food ### Press No press story about House of Pies found yet. ### Awards None named yet. ### Directories Directory listings not read yet. ## Recent updates from House of Pies House of Pies hasn't posted an update here yet. ## Questions people ask ### somewhere cheaper in Los Angeles that is not a risk? No answer yet ### are prices in Los Angeles higher than everywhere else No answer yet ### best diner in Los Angeles No answer yet ### do I need to book House of Pies in Los Angeles or can I just turn up? No answer yet ### is Cafe 50's any better No answer yet ### bad experiences here, anyone? No answer yet ### services here, what do people go in for? No answer yet ### trying to avoid the rush, which day is quiet No answer yet ### Any membership pricing here? No answer yet ### Why do people rate House of Pies? No answer yet ### people keep recommending House of Pies, what for? No answer yet ### what else is on Vermont around House of Pies? No answer yet ### parking at House of Pies, where does everyone put the car? No answer yet ### does House of Pies ever have cancellations No answer yet ### anything new from House of Pies lately? No answer yet ### Booking a first visit at House of Pies, what happens? No answer yet ### opening hours here, what are they these days? No answer yet ## What AI gets wrong about House of Pies We ask ChatGPT about House of Pies. These are the answers that disagree with the record. ChatGPT, read by Local AI Registry on Aug 31, 2026. No capture has disagreed with the record yet. ## The AI Score: 25 of 100 The AI Score measures how likely AI engines are to recommend a business, and how accurately. Los Angeles diners run 24 to 49. Fair starts at 45, good at 65. House of Pies scores 25, below the Los Angeles average of 32. The same method scores every business on the registry. | Signal | Weight | Score | What it measures | House of Pies | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | Retrieval grounding | 26 | 0 | Whether you appear in the ranked results AI retrieves and cites: AI-Overview citations, organic top-10 for your money queries, and the Bing index ChatGPT leans on. | Poor | | Off-property attestation | 20 | 40 | Volume and consistency of what others say about you: YouTube mentions, branded web mentions, third-party “best-of” lists. The cause of retrievability. | Poor | | AI visibility | 14 | 0 | Whether ChatGPT, Gemini, Perplexity, and AI Overviews name you, and whether they name you for the right service. | Nobody at all was recommended in the 1 answer we hold, so there is nothing to score. | | Reviews & response | 12 | 88 | The star average is only one input. We also read volume, velocity, the specificity of review language, and response cadence. Specific reviews are what AI quotes verbatim. | Good | | Backlink & citation authority | 8 | 57 | Domain authority and editorial quality of the sources that attest to you. | Fair | | Google Business Profile | 8 | 90 | Required and recommended fields; update cadence. The listing AI pulls from first. | Good | | Speed & mobile | 7 | Not read yet | Core Web Vitals at the 75th percentile, on a real phone. | No reading has come back for this signal yet. | | Content freshness & schema | 5 | 73 | Crawl recency, intent alignment, valid JSON-LD, canonicals. | Good | Full method: https://localairegistry.com/methodology ## How AI decides what to tell you about a diner When you ask ChatGPT, Gemini or Google about a local business, the AI doesn't visit it. It reads what's already written about it: the business's website, its Google Business Profile, review sites, news stories and directories like this one. Then it repeats what those sources agree on. That's why AI gets small facts wrong. If Yelp says a place is open Mondays and the website says it isn't, the AI has to pick one. The table above shows the answers that disagree with the record today. The more sources agree, and the more specific they are, the more confidently AI recommends a business. A review that names who helped and what they did tells an AI far more than one that says "great place." ## How to choose a diner in California, with or without AI A few checks take ten minutes and tell you more than any rating. - Check that the hours and phone number match on Google, Yelp and the business's own website. Mismatches are how people end up at a locked door. - Read reviews that name a person and what they did. Vague praise is easy to fake. - Look for recent reviews and recent posts. A page nobody has touched in a year may not match the business today. - Ask for the price before you go, and ask what it includes. - Where the work needs a license, ask whose license it is and look it up with California. ## How to read the marks on this page - Confirmed (solid circle): from a known source. The business website, its Google Business Profile, review sites like Yelp, Healthgrades and RealSelf, a licensing board, or measured by Local AI Registry. - Visitor submitted (hollow circle): added or corrected by a person, with the date and how they know, like a phone call or a visit. - AI guess (hollow triangle): what AI engines are saying right now. Nobody has confirmed it. ## About the author Steve Lee is the founder and CEO of Local AI Registry and sets its editorial standards. He is a former Google executive in Search and a former Microsoft executive, with more than 20 years in digital: search, local discovery, and how people find businesses online. He is based in Irvine. - Expertise: search at Google and Microsoft, AI search, answer engine optimization, generative engine optimization, local SEO, structured data and entity mapping. - Industry: medical aesthetics, injectables, med spa operations and marketing. - Disclosure: Local AI Registry sells services to business owners, including House of Pies if it claims this page. That does not change what this page says. Every fact carries its source. ## Entity map Every person, place, organization and treatment named on this page, with a stable ID and a public reference. The JSON-LD below connects them to each other. | Entity | Type | ID on this page | Same as | Relationship to House of Pies | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | House of Pies | LocalBusiness | #business | http://houseofpiesla.com/ | Subject of this page | | Los Angeles, California | City | #city | Nothing found | City House of Pies is in | | Local AI Registry | Organization | #publisher | https://localairegistry.com | Publisher of this page | | Steve Lee | Person | #author | https://localairegistry.com/team | Author of this page | ## Topical map Where this page sits in the registry. It's one profile among the diners in Los Angeles, linked to the lists and towns around it. ### Lists - Best diners in Los Angeles: https://localairegistry.com/leaderboards/ca/los-angeles/diner - Best businesses in Los Angeles: https://localairegistry.com/leaderboards/ca/los-angeles ### Nearby - /san-francisco: https://localairegistry.com/leaderboards/ca/san-francisco - /san-jose: https://localairegistry.com/leaderboards/ca/san-jose - /san-diego: https://localairegistry.com/leaderboards/ca/san-diego - /irvine: https://localairegistry.com/leaderboards/ca/irvine - /fresno: https://localairegistry.com/leaderboards/ca/fresno - /palo-alto: https://localairegistry.com/leaderboards/ca/palo-alto ### Every list - Every leaderboard in California: https://localairegistry.com/leaderboards/ca ## Frequently asked questions ### What is AI search optimization for local business? Getting a business named when a neighbor asks ChatGPT, Gemini, or Perplexity for a recommendation. Some call it AI SEO, some call it generative engine optimization. Traditional SEO fights for ten blue links; this fights for the one answer an assistant says out loud. The AI Score on this page measures the eight signals that drive it. ### What is Local AI Registry? The public record of how AI sees local business. We score every business we list by one published method, we keep the questions people ask about it in one place, and we never sell rank. Looking up any business here is free. ### How does this page help a business get recommended by AI? Assistants read public pages before they answer. This one states what the business does, what people ask about it, and what the Record answers, in one place a machine can read. Correcting what is wrong here changes what an assistant repeats next. ### Who writes the answers here? Registry AI writes the first answer under every question, from the Record and the public sources named beneath it. Neighbors write the rest under pseudonyms. A registered owner can reply as the business, and their reply says so. ### I own House of Pies. How do I fix something or rank higher? Register the page. It is free, it takes about five minutes, and it lets you correct the Record and reply as the business. Nothing on this page is for sale, so the only thing that moves the score is the work. ## References ### Sources cited - [1] Google Business Profile, https://www.google.com/maps/place/?q=place_id:ChIJnSOQGa_AwoARVCBgUgjhlZA (accessed Aug 31, 2026) - [2] AI engine output: ChatGPT, read by Local AI Registry on Aug 31, 2026, https://localairegistry.com/methodology (accessed Sep 19, 2026)
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<p>Local AI Registry · Diners in Los Angeles, CA · Editorial</p>
<h2>House of Pies, Los Angeles: a diner in Los Angeles (2026 guide)</h2>
<p>By Steve Lee, founder and CEO of Local AI Registry. Former Google Search executive and former Microsoft executive, with 20+ years in digital.</p>
<p>Fact-checked against 2 sources · Published August 31, 2026 · Updated August 31, 2026 · Machine-readable version below</p>
<p>Owner review: not yet. House of Pies has not checked this page.</p>
</header>
<section id="ai-in-short">
<h3>In short</h3>
<p>House of Pies is a diner in Los Angeles, CA. Its AI Score is 25 of 100, which is poor.</p>
<p>Every fact on this page carries one of three marks: Confirmed (from their website, Google Business Profile, review sites, licensing boards, or measured by Local AI Registry), Visitor submitted (added by a person, with a date and how they know), or AI guess (what AI engines like ChatGPT are saying, not confirmed by anyone). Every mark points to a reference at the end of this page.</p>
</section>
<section id="ai-key-facts">
<h3>Key facts</h3>
<table>
<thead><tr><th scope="col">Fact</th><th scope="col">Value</th></tr></thead>
<tbody>
<tr><td>Type</td><td>Diner</td></tr>
<tr><td>Address</td><td>1869 N Vermont Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90027, USA</td></tr>
<tr><td>Hours</td><td>Mon to Thu 7 AM to 1 AM · Fri to Sat 7 AM to 2 AM · Sun 7 AM to 1 AM</td></tr>
<tr><td>Phone</td><td>(323) 666-9961</td></tr>
<tr><td>Owner</td><td>Nothing found</td></tr>
<tr><td>Rating</td><td>4.3 across 3,987 reviews on Google</td></tr>
<tr><td>Known for</td><td>House of Pies is best known for its extensive selection of pies, particularly the lemon meringue and cheesecake, alongside a diverse diner menu that attracts locals.</td></tr>
<tr><td>Prices</td><td>Nothing found</td></tr>
<tr><td>Quietest time</td><td>Wednesday</td></tr>
<tr><td>Parking</td><td>Nothing found</td></tr>
<tr><td>Last verified</td><td>September 19, 2026, 11:02 AM</td></tr>
</tbody>
</table>
</section>
<section id="ai-all-the-details">
<h3>All the details</h3>
<p>Every row is something the owner can add or correct. Each one is marked Confirmed, Visitor submitted or AI guess, with where it came from.</p>
<table>
<thead><tr><th scope="col">Group</th><th scope="col">Fact</th><th scope="col">Value</th><th scope="col">Mark</th><th scope="col">Evidence</th></tr></thead>
<tbody>
<tr><td>Location info</td><td>Address</td><td>1869 N Vermont Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90027, USA</td><td>Confirmed</td><td>Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026</td></tr>
<tr><td>Location info</td><td>Description</td><td>Retro coffee shop serves huge menu of diner fare, including signature dessert, till the wee hours.</td><td>Confirmed</td><td>Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026</td></tr>
<tr><td>Location info</td><td>Hours</td><td>Mon to Thu 7:00 AM to 1:00 AM · Fri to Sat 7:00 AM to 2:00 AM · Sun 7:00 AM to 1:00 AM</td><td>Confirmed</td><td>Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026</td></tr>
<tr><td>Location info</td><td>Name</td><td>House of Pies</td><td>Confirmed</td><td>Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026</td></tr>
<tr><td>Location info</td><td>Phone</td><td>(323) 666-9961</td><td>Confirmed</td><td>Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026</td></tr>
<tr><td>Hours</td><td>Monday</td><td>7:00 AM to 1:00 AM</td><td>Confirmed</td><td>Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026</td></tr>
<tr><td>Hours</td><td>Tuesday</td><td>7:00 AM to 1:00 AM</td><td>Confirmed</td><td>Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026</td></tr>
<tr><td>Hours</td><td>Wednesday</td><td>7:00 AM to 1:00 AM</td><td>Confirmed</td><td>Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026</td></tr>
<tr><td>Hours</td><td>Thursday</td><td>7:00 AM to 1:00 AM</td><td>Confirmed</td><td>Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026</td></tr>
<tr><td>Hours</td><td>Friday</td><td>7:00 AM to 2:00 AM</td><td>Confirmed</td><td>Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026</td></tr>
<tr><td>Hours</td><td>Saturday</td><td>7:00 AM to 2:00 AM</td><td>Confirmed</td><td>Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026</td></tr>
<tr><td>Hours</td><td>Sunday</td><td>7:00 AM to 1:00 AM</td><td>Confirmed</td><td>Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026</td></tr>
<tr><td>Services</td><td>Service</td><td>Breakfast</td><td>AI guess</td><td>Nothing found</td></tr>
<tr><td>Services</td><td>Service</td><td>Coffee</td><td>AI guess</td><td>Nothing found</td></tr>
<tr><td>Services</td><td>Service</td><td>Desserts</td><td>AI guess</td><td>Nothing found</td></tr>
<tr><td>Services</td><td>Service</td><td>Dinner</td><td>AI guess</td><td>Nothing found</td></tr>
<tr><td>Services</td><td>Service</td><td>Lunch</td><td>AI guess</td><td>Nothing found</td></tr>
<tr><td>Links</td><td>Website</td><td>http://houseofpiesla.com/</td><td>Confirmed</td><td>Google Business Profile, checked Aug 31, 2026</td></tr>
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</table>
</section>
<section id="ai-services-and-prices">
<h3>Services and prices</h3>
<p>Services not read yet, back on Scan Day.</p>
<h4>Known for</h4>
<p>House of Pies is best known for its extensive selection of pies, particularly the lemon meringue and cheesecake, alongside a diverse diner menu that attracts locals.</p>
</section>
<section id="ai-the-team">
<h3>The team</h3>
<p>Nothing found</p>
</section>
<section id="ai-visiting-house-of-pies">
<h3>Visiting House of Pies</h3>
<p>Address: 1869 N Vermont Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90027, USA. Phone: (323) 666-9961. Hours: Mon to Thu 7 AM to 1 AM · Fri to Sat 7 AM to 2 AM · Sun 7 AM to 1 AM. (Confirmed, Google Business Profile, checked August 31, 2026 at 10:58 PM.)</p>
<h4>Location info from Google Business Profile</h4>
<p>Business description, written by House of Pies on its Google Business Profile: "Retro coffee shop serves huge menu of diner fare, including signature dessert, till the wee hours."</p>
<h4>When to go</h4>
<p>Quietest day: Wednesday. Busiest day: Saturday. From the popular times on its Google listing.</p>
<h4>Parking and getting in</h4>
<p>Nothing found</p>
<h4>Nearby</h4>
<table>
<thead><tr><th scope="col">Place</th><th scope="col">Type</th><th scope="col">Distance</th></tr></thead>
<tbody>
<tr><td>1829-1847 N Vermont Ave Parking</td><td>Parking lot</td><td>1 min walk</td></tr>
<tr><td>Franklin & Vermont Ave.</td><td>Bus stop</td><td>1 min walk</td></tr>
<tr><td>Bru Coffeebar</td><td>Coffee shop</td><td>1 min walk</td></tr>
<tr><td>Greetings from Los Feliz Mural</td><td>Tourist attraction</td><td>1 min walk</td></tr>
<tr><td>Vermont / Franklin</td><td>Bus stop</td><td>1 min walk</td></tr>
<tr><td>Vermont / Franklin</td><td>Transit station</td><td>1 min walk</td></tr>
</tbody>
</table>
</section>
<section id="ai-reputation">
<h3>Reputation</h3>
<p>4.3 average across 3,987 reviews: Google 25. (Confirmed, read August 31, 2026.)</p>
<p>While House of Pies is known for its variety of pies and diner fare, inconsistent service and cleanliness issues have led to mixed reviews. (AI guess, from 3,987 reviews.)</p>
<h4>What people like</h4>
<ul>
<li>Lemon meringue pie</li>
<li>Strawberry cheesecake</li>
<li>Ranchero omelette</li>
<li>Belgium waffle</li>
<li>Raspberry marble cheesecake</li>
</ul>
<h4>What people do not like</h4>
<ul>
<li>Long waits for food</li>
<li>Inconsistent service quality</li>
<li>Cleanliness concerns</li>
<li>Perceived bias in service</li>
<li>Poorly prepared food</li>
</ul>
<h4>Press</h4>
<p>No press story about House of Pies found yet.</p>
<h4>Awards</h4>
<p>None named yet.</p>
<h4>Directories</h4>
<p>Directory listings not read yet.</p>
</section>
<section id="ai-recent-updates-from-house-of-pies">
<h3>Recent updates from House of Pies</h3>
<p>House of Pies hasn't posted an update here yet.</p>
</section>
<section id="ai-questions-people-ask">
<h3>Questions people ask</h3>
<h4>somewhere cheaper in Los Angeles that is not a risk?</h4>
<p>No answer yet</p>
<h4>are prices in Los Angeles higher than everywhere else</h4>
<p>No answer yet</p>
<h4>best diner in Los Angeles</h4>
<p>No answer yet</p>
<h4>do I need to book House of Pies in Los Angeles or can I just turn up?</h4>
<p>No answer yet</p>
<h4>is Cafe 50's any better</h4>
<p>No answer yet</p>
<h4>bad experiences here, anyone?</h4>
<p>No answer yet</p>
<h4>services here, what do people go in for?</h4>
<p>No answer yet</p>
<h4>trying to avoid the rush, which day is quiet</h4>
<p>No answer yet</p>
<h4>Any membership pricing here?</h4>
<p>No answer yet</p>
<h4>Why do people rate House of Pies?</h4>
<p>No answer yet</p>
<h4>people keep recommending House of Pies, what for?</h4>
<p>No answer yet</p>
<h4>what else is on Vermont around House of Pies?</h4>
<p>No answer yet</p>
<h4>parking at House of Pies, where does everyone put the car?</h4>
<p>No answer yet</p>
<h4>does House of Pies ever have cancellations</h4>
<p>No answer yet</p>
<h4>anything new from House of Pies lately?</h4>
<p>No answer yet</p>
<h4>Booking a first visit at House of Pies, what happens?</h4>
<p>No answer yet</p>
<h4>opening hours here, what are they these days?</h4>
<p>No answer yet</p>
</section>
<section id="ai-what-ai-gets-wrong">
<h3>What AI gets wrong about House of Pies</h3>
<p>We ask ChatGPT about House of Pies. These are the answers that disagree with the record.</p>
<p>ChatGPT, read by Local AI Registry on Aug 31, 2026.</p>
<p>No capture has disagreed with the record yet.</p>
</section>
<section id="ai-score">
<h3>The AI Score: 25 of 100</h3>
<p>The AI Score measures how likely AI engines are to recommend a business, and how accurately. Los Angeles diners run 24 to 49. Fair starts at 45, good at 65. House of Pies scores 25, below the Los Angeles average of 32. The same method scores every business on the registry.</p>
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<thead><tr><th scope="col">Signal</th><th scope="col">Weight</th><th scope="col">Score</th><th scope="col">What it measures</th><th scope="col">House of Pies</th></tr></thead>
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<tr><td>Retrieval grounding</td><td>26</td><td>0</td><td>Whether you appear in the ranked results AI retrieves and cites: AI-Overview citations, organic top-10 for your money queries, and the Bing index ChatGPT leans on.</td><td>Poor</td></tr>
<tr><td>Off-property attestation</td><td>20</td><td>40</td><td>Volume and consistency of what others say about you: YouTube mentions, branded web mentions, third-party “best-of” lists. The cause of retrievability.</td><td>Poor</td></tr>
<tr><td>AI visibility</td><td>14</td><td>0</td><td>Whether ChatGPT, Gemini, Perplexity, and AI Overviews name you, and whether they name you for the right service.</td><td>Nobody at all was recommended in the 1 answer we hold, so there is nothing to score.</td></tr>
<tr><td>Reviews & response</td><td>12</td><td>88</td><td>The star average is only one input. We also read volume, velocity, the specificity of review language, and response cadence. Specific reviews are what AI quotes verbatim.</td><td>Good</td></tr>
<tr><td>Backlink & citation authority</td><td>8</td><td>57</td><td>Domain authority and editorial quality of the sources that attest to you.</td><td>Fair</td></tr>
<tr><td>Google Business Profile</td><td>8</td><td>90</td><td>Required and recommended fields; update cadence. The listing AI pulls from first.</td><td>Good</td></tr>
<tr><td>Speed & mobile</td><td>7</td><td>Not read yet</td><td>Core Web Vitals at the 75th percentile, on a real phone.</td><td>No reading has come back for this signal yet.</td></tr>
<tr><td>Content freshness & schema</td><td>5</td><td>73</td><td>Crawl recency, intent alignment, valid JSON-LD, canonicals.</td><td>Good</td></tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<p>Full method: https://localairegistry.com/methodology</p>
</section>
<section id="ai-how-ai-decides-what-to-tell-you-about-a-diner">
<h3>How AI decides what to tell you about a diner</h3>
<p>When you ask ChatGPT, Gemini or Google about a local business, the AI doesn't visit it. It reads what's already written about it: the business's website, its Google Business Profile, review sites, news stories and directories like this one. Then it repeats what those sources agree on.</p>
<p>That's why AI gets small facts wrong. If Yelp says a place is open Mondays and the website says it isn't, the AI has to pick one. The table above shows the answers that disagree with the record today.</p>
<p>The more sources agree, and the more specific they are, the more confidently AI recommends a business. A review that names who helped and what they did tells an AI far more than one that says "great place."</p>
</section>
<section id="ai-how-to-choose-a-diner-in-california-with-or-without-ai">
<h3>How to choose a diner in California, with or without AI</h3>
<p>A few checks take ten minutes and tell you more than any rating.</p>
<ul>
<li>Check that the hours and phone number match on Google, Yelp and the business's own website. Mismatches are how people end up at a locked door.</li>
<li>Read reviews that name a person and what they did. Vague praise is easy to fake.</li>
<li>Look for recent reviews and recent posts. A page nobody has touched in a year may not match the business today.</li>
<li>Ask for the price before you go, and ask what it includes.</li>
<li>Where the work needs a license, ask whose license it is and look it up with California.</li>
</ul>
</section>
<section id="ai-how-to-read-the-marks-on-this-page">
<h3>How to read the marks on this page</h3>
<ul>
<li>Confirmed (solid circle): from a known source. The business website, its Google Business Profile, review sites like Yelp, Healthgrades and RealSelf, a licensing board, or measured by Local AI Registry.</li>
<li>Visitor submitted (hollow circle): added or corrected by a person, with the date and how they know, like a phone call or a visit.</li>
<li>AI guess (hollow triangle): what AI engines are saying right now. Nobody has confirmed it.</li>
</ul>
</section>
<section id="ai-about-the-author">
<h3>About the author</h3>
<p>Steve Lee is the founder and CEO of Local AI Registry and sets its editorial standards. He is a former Google executive in Search and a former Microsoft executive, with more than 20 years in digital: search, local discovery, and how people find businesses online. He is based in Irvine.</p>
<ul>
<li>Expertise: search at Google and Microsoft, AI search, answer engine optimization, generative engine optimization, local SEO, structured data and entity mapping.</li>
<li>Industry: medical aesthetics, injectables, med spa operations and marketing.</li>
<li>Disclosure: Local AI Registry sells services to business owners, including House of Pies if it claims this page. That does not change what this page says. Every fact carries its source.</li>
</ul>
</section>
<section id="ai-entity-map">
<h3>Entity map</h3>
<p>Every person, place, organization and treatment named on this page, with a stable ID and a public reference. The JSON-LD below connects them to each other.</p>
<table>
<thead><tr><th scope="col">Entity</th><th scope="col">Type</th><th scope="col">ID on this page</th><th scope="col">Same as</th><th scope="col">Relationship to House of Pies</th></tr></thead>
<tbody>
<tr><td>House of Pies</td><td>LocalBusiness</td><td>#business</td><td>http://houseofpiesla.com/</td><td>Subject of this page</td></tr>
<tr><td>Los Angeles, California</td><td>City</td><td>#city</td><td>Nothing found</td><td>City House of Pies is in</td></tr>
<tr><td>Local AI Registry</td><td>Organization</td><td>#publisher</td><td>https://localairegistry.com</td><td>Publisher of this page</td></tr>
<tr><td>Steve Lee</td><td>Person</td><td>#author</td><td>https://localairegistry.com/team</td><td>Author of this page</td></tr>
</tbody>
</table>
</section>
<section id="ai-topical-map">
<h3>Topical map</h3>
<p>Where this page sits in the registry. It's one profile among the diners in Los Angeles, linked to the lists and towns around it.</p>
<h4>Lists</h4>
<ul>
<li>Best diners in Los Angeles: https://localairegistry.com/leaderboards/ca/los-angeles/diner</li>
<li>Best businesses in Los Angeles: https://localairegistry.com/leaderboards/ca/los-angeles</li>
</ul>
<h4>Nearby</h4>
<ul>
<li>/san-francisco: https://localairegistry.com/leaderboards/ca/san-francisco</li>
<li>/san-jose: https://localairegistry.com/leaderboards/ca/san-jose</li>
<li>/san-diego: https://localairegistry.com/leaderboards/ca/san-diego</li>
<li>/irvine: https://localairegistry.com/leaderboards/ca/irvine</li>
<li>/fresno: https://localairegistry.com/leaderboards/ca/fresno</li>
<li>/palo-alto: https://localairegistry.com/leaderboards/ca/palo-alto</li>
</ul>
<h4>Every list</h4>
<ul>
<li>Every leaderboard in California: https://localairegistry.com/leaderboards/ca</li>
</ul>
</section>
<section id="ai-frequently-asked-questions">
<h3>Frequently asked questions</h3>
<h4>What is AI search optimization for local business?</h4>
<p>Getting a business named when a neighbor asks ChatGPT, Gemini, or Perplexity for a recommendation. Some call it AI SEO, some call it generative engine optimization. Traditional SEO fights for ten blue links; this fights for the one answer an assistant says out loud. The AI Score on this page measures the eight signals that drive it.</p>
<h4>What is Local AI Registry?</h4>
<p>The public record of how AI sees local business. We score every business we list by one published method, we keep the questions people ask about it in one place, and we never sell rank. Looking up any business here is free.</p>
<h4>How does this page help a business get recommended by AI?</h4>
<p>Assistants read public pages before they answer. This one states what the business does, what people ask about it, and what the Record answers, in one place a machine can read. Correcting what is wrong here changes what an assistant repeats next.</p>
<h4>Who writes the answers here?</h4>
<p>Registry AI writes the first answer under every question, from the Record and the public sources named beneath it. Neighbors write the rest under pseudonyms. A registered owner can reply as the business, and their reply says so.</p>
<h4>I own House of Pies. How do I fix something or rank higher?</h4>
<p>Register the page. It is free, it takes about five minutes, and it lets you correct the Record and reply as the business. Nothing on this page is for sale, so the only thing that moves the score is the work.</p>
</section>
<section id="ai-references">
<h3>References</h3>
<h4>Sources cited</h4>
<ul>
<li>[1] Google Business Profile, https://www.google.com/maps/place/?q=place_id:ChIJnSOQGa_AwoARVCBgUgjhlZA (accessed Aug 31, 2026)</li>
<li>[2] AI engine output: ChatGPT, read by Local AI Registry on Aug 31, 2026, https://localairegistry.com/methodology (accessed Sep 19, 2026)</li>
</ul>
</section>
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</html>This is the evidence for every fact on this page, across Locals, Services, Team, Visit, Reputation and Updates. Each reference names the fact, the source, what kind of source it is, and the date it was checked, with a link and an archived copy so anyone can verify it. Visitor references are dated firsthand accounts. AI guesses record what an AI engine said on that date, not what is true.